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New Members Area / Re: New Driver and Paseo Owner!
« on: June 15, 2016, 07:16:58 am »
that engine speed (revs) in fifth is quite normal but he is not alone in trying to go for that extra gear. Having said that if you fit a six speed box it only makes a slight difference to your motor way revs.

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New Members Area / Re: New Driver and Paseo Owner!
« on: June 14, 2016, 08:07:26 am »
try going to a specialist, (not Adrian flux, they charge through the nose) but consider A-plan or Sky insurance and state you are a member of an enthusiast club, these often get discount. I used to have my engine swapped Toyota corolla through sky and it was never more than £600-700 for a 2.0L turbo!

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Members Paseos / Re: Fozzie's 1AO Paseo ST
« on: May 27, 2016, 07:43:35 am »
Yes I had read that it's always wise to upgrade the pump even if it isn't strictly necessary, purely for the sake of 'playing it safe'. I'm sure I read about a couple of Starlets that have gone pop because the 20 year old pump ended up fluctuating under load and screwed up the A/F ratios.

I have done a little digging on this and from Toyota I have found these parts numbers (which may be of interest)

ep82/ep91 4EFTE fuel pump Assy:

23220-74020
23220-74021
23221-46010

ep91 Starlet 4EFE Fuel pump Assy:

23220-74020

el54 Paseo 5EFE fuel pump Assy:

23221-46010

So basically you can get away with using the oem pump for a while, but (and it is a considerable but) the original injectors are rated for ~185cc and the mr2 injectors are ~370cc. Bear in mind that the maximum sized starlet turbo injectors was ~290cc if I recall so provided you don't spend to much time at the top end you might be okay.
However as you correctly stated this is a twenty or so year old pump that's been quiet happy delivering within its comfort zone and boost (especially for sustained periods) will place a high demand on it. its Toyota so it'll run until it can run no more but its flow rate will wear down before it fails. if you choose not to upgrade at first keep an ear out for knock/det and look to the fuel pump to be your first culprit.
important note: whilst the 5EFE pump is the same as the 4EFTE pump and similar to the 4EFE pump, do no forget the additional displacement of the 5EFE when strapping the turbo on!

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Members Paseos / Re: Fozzie's 1AO Paseo ST
« on: May 26, 2016, 07:42:41 am »
It was my thoughts to run a lower boost level (maybe 0.5 BAR) but I know it may be a little tricky to get the fueling right at those levels - when I start to put it all together, maybe I should look at some Glanza injectors instead and just increase the fuel pressure (with a decent pump of course)?


you will need to run a decent fuel pump to begin with the paseo pump will cause major issues with a turbo, see if you can get your hands on a second hand GT4(ST205)/MR2 turbo/Supra turbo (Mkiv) Fuel pump. the pump assy should be a relatively straight swap. only go for the chassis types stated though as the earlier models (ST185, mkiii supra) use a significantly larger pump and operate in a different fashion.

You would be able to get away (safely) with running the 370 injectors on the Glanza Ecu with any of those pumps, I can understand your caution with regard to boost pressure it is a considered approach, often the best way. May I suggest two option routes?

1) procure a 0.5 Bar (probably adjustable) actuator, rebuild engine using OEM 4EFTE/5EFE mixed gasket sets

2) use the turbo's standard actuator (usually 0.7 Bar) but when you rebuild the engine for the turbo setup use a decompression plate / thicker headgasket (this would not have to be an aggressive one, I'd imagine the TRD thicker gasket or Athene MLS jobbie, about 1.2mm would be sufficient, not more than that otherwise you wouldn't feel the benefit.)

Don't forget that the turbo from the kit is not is CT9 and as such behaves differently. I didn't manage to find a compressor map in the time which I had it but they may be beneficial to you if you can get hold of one. If it is tailored for low boost, spooling nicely at low rpms then your planned build should be good. if however the map shows its designed to deliver more boost at higher RPMS then lowering the compression maybe a bigger factor.

Alternatively you could take a traditional starlet approach which would be to build it all and drive it til things go bang?

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Members Paseos / Re: Fozzie's 1AO Paseo ST
« on: May 25, 2016, 07:54:07 am »
Hmm, it appears as though you may well get away with using the 5E-FE pistons (some good research done there!). MR2 green tops rings a bell but may be overkill if you plan to run moderate boost, although that isn't a bad thing. you really will have to get the cooling under control though (a correctly sized and located intercooler will facilitate with this, I had originally intended to use an early mini cooper diesel turbo intercooler as it is dimensionally suitable for the Paseo's front grill intake, avoid the cooper s petrol intercoolers as they have bespoke mini pipework whereas the diesel does not). the pistons aren't the only thing that increase the compression ration for the 5E, the cylinder head is a slightly different shape inside the chambers, this can also introduce hotspots into the combustion chamber that are not present in the 4EFTE engine (hot spots being the primary cause the detonation). the oversized fuel injectors should help dampen this issue in the early stages until the ECU learns how to work with them proper and leans out the mix a little more.
when you do upgrade to turbo I would highly recommend you acquire and aftermarket temperature gauge to give you an accurate estimation of the coolant temps.

Well Galliano can get away with saying any interior looks poverty spec when he has an úber rare OEM leather setup!


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Members Paseos / Re: Fozzie's 1AO Paseo ST
« on: May 24, 2016, 12:43:33 pm »
ah yes, I recall you now! glad to know the hoarded goodies are still within the paseo club fold. the GT Turbo wheel is soooo better than the OEM one, not just for look but feel too!
I hope you make more progress on this project soon. I can't remember did you get a set of bigger injectors with all the other stuff?

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Members Paseos / Re: Hello from Lancashire
« on: May 24, 2016, 12:41:15 pm »
amazingly standard condition in there, you still have all the original air intake and the radiator cover (usually goes missing). All the Toyotas from this period are really suffering with the rusty wiper arms by now. just did mine on the MR2

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Paseo Chat / Re: Handbrake handle.
« on: May 24, 2016, 12:39:23 pm »
i should make it clear, I have removed the entire hand brake lever assembly from the car. the plastic handgrip part will not come off without destroying the grip part. this is also the bit that holds the button in place. so if removed by force the button (thumb bit) will fall out too.

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Members Paseos / Re: Fozzie's 1AO Paseo ST
« on: May 23, 2016, 03:48:53 pm »
a tidy looking example, some nice an simple mods you have there. I personally cannot recommend enough the 6 speed g'box as a game changer but I don't think it would work with the quick shifter you have already fitted  :D

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New Members Area / Re: New Driver and Paseo Owner!
« on: May 23, 2016, 03:46:19 pm »
welcome, paseo is a good car to start motoring with. but don't be afraid to get stuck in proper! a squeally belt is easily fixed with a couple of spanners. A quick tension of the alternator should see you right.

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Paseo Chat / Re: Handbrake handle.
« on: May 23, 2016, 03:42:06 pm »
I can attest, that they are indeed molded over the metal and cannot be removed without destroying it. I have removed one fully to study it properly.

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Paseo Chat / Re: Celica Seats!
« on: May 10, 2016, 09:40:56 am »
Has anyone ever fitted gen7 celica seats in their paseo? I thought I'd read that they fit but I've had to admit defeat today 😞 Gutted really, want some leather in my life again.

does that mean you had a set and trial fitted them? would love to see pictures of subframe comparisons etc.

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Paseo Chat / Re: internal cover for sunroof P reg Paseo
« on: May 04, 2016, 03:35:20 pm »
Galliano? how many of these have you got...

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Members Paseos / Re: Hello from Lancashire
« on: April 28, 2016, 07:50:09 am »
very tidy, and as rumface said most definitely the best colour

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Members Paseos / Re: Rumface's Paseo
« on: April 18, 2016, 07:33:55 am »
if you are happy with an auto box then its just a =n issue of finding the right set or fabbing a set of driveshafts then  it'll quite easy with a set of custom engine mounts and away you go!

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